Whenever we bring forth the discussion of intercession we are called Kafars by our Sunni brothers and sisters. They say that intercession is a form of shirk (giving God a equal) and that no one can intercede for anyone when we are being judged by Allah(swt) on the day of judgement. We humbly disagree. Like always we prove our claim through Quran. And to further show proof that Allah(swt) allows intercession to be done I will provide Sunni Hadith that our Sunni brothers and Sisters claim to be Sahih and I do this because of the outrageous cries from Sunnis that say, we Shia translate the Quranic verses wrong. So let us begin to examine the topic of Intercession. I will try to make it fast and short as possible!!

First off when we examine intercession we must understand it in two parts. The first part is Wasilla (someone who is a bridge or link between you and Allah in the world). The second part is Shafa’a (someone who intercedes for you on the day of judgement).

Now Wasilla can be explained very fast and easy. When Allah(swt) communicates with mankind how does he do it? Of course he chooses messengers that relay his message. So, through the prophets, Allah(swt) makes aware his existence and rules to mankind. So if Allah(swt) uses a Wasilla to communicate with you, why would it not be possible to use the Wasilla to get to Allah(swt). We don’t worship the Wasilla!! Allah(swt) has accepted this person as a means of mercy to mankind, so why NOT? And in fact, when we read in the Quran, we see just that:

Quran Surah:2 Verse:61- And when you said: O Musa! we cannot bear with one food, therefore pray Lord on our behalf to bring forth for us out of what the earth grows, of its herbs and its cucumbers and its garlic and its lentils and its onions…………… this was so because they disobeyed and exceeded the limits.

Quran Surah:7 Verse:134-135- And when the plague fell upon them, they said: O Musa! pray for us to your Lord as He has made a covenant with you, if you remove the plague from us, we will certainly believe in you and we will certainly send away with you the children of Israel. But when We removed the plague from them till a term which they should attain lo! they broke (the promise).

Quran Surah:3 Verse:159- Thus it is due to mercy from Allah that you deal with them gently, and had you been rough, hard hearted, they would certainly have dispersed from around you; pardon them therefore and ask pardon for them, and take counsel with them in the affair; so when you have decided, then place your trust in Allah; surely Allah loves those who trust.

Quran Surah:4 Verse:64- And We did not send any apostle but that he should be obeyed by Allah’s permission; and had they, when they were unjust to themselves, come to you and asked forgiveness of Allah and the Apostle had (also) asked forgiveness for them, they would have found Allah Oft-returning (to mercy), Merciful.

Quran Surah:63 Verse:5- And when it is said to them: Come, the Apostle of Allah will ask forgiveness for you, they turn back their heads and you may see them turning away while they are big with pride.

So from these five verses we see that Allah(swt) has allowed people to go through his chosen people to reach him as He has done to reach us. Not only that, but he has even on some occasions prescribed the people to do so. So when we do dua for Imam al-Mahdi(as) to come and to be a Wasilla between us and Allah there is nothing wrong with it, for Allah(swt) has allowed us to. But now our Sunni brothers and sisters will say, "fine yes this type of intercession is permitted– but for the dunya(world) and with someone who Allah(swt) has made a covenant with," but Imam al-Mahdi is not a prophet so how did Allah(swt) establish a covenant with him? How quickly we forget when Allah(swt) in the Quran established a covenant of Imama with Prophet Ibrahim(as). Quran Suarh:2 Verse:124- And when his Lord tried Ibrahim with certain words, he fulfilled them. He said: Surely I will make you an Imam for mankind. Ibrahim said: And of my offspring? My covenant does not include the unjust, said He.

As for those who challenge you and say yes but that person must be alive and he must be seen. Is Imam al-Mahdi(as) not alive? Is it Imam al-Mahdi giving you what you need or is it Allah(swt)? So if I pray in his name Allah will give me not the Imam, so why do I need to see him face to face. For the Sunni’s that don’t accept he is born that is a whole separate topic. But have them prove he is not born, and that they can never do.   

Now the second part is Shafa’a. Someone who can intercede for you on the day of Judgement in front of Allah(swt). Also when I say in front of Allah(swt) it’s metaphorical, not literal. All though you may be surprised on the answer you will get from some of your Sunni brothers and Sisters.  Any ways, now they come forth and say that this kind of intercession is shirk and in fact Quran makes it clear that there is no intercession for anyone . They will even present these verses:

Quran Surah:32 Verse:4- Allah is He Who created the heavens and the earth and what is between them in six periods, and He mounted the throne (of authority); you have not besides Him any guardian or any intercessor, will you not then mind?

Quran Surah:40 Verse:18- And warn them of the day that draws near, when hearts shall rise up to the throats, grieving inwardly; the unjust shall not have any compassionate friend nor any intercessor who should be obeyed.

Quran Surah:39 Verse:43-44- Or have they taken intercessors besides Allah? Say: what! even though they did not ever have control over anything, nor do they understand. Say: Allah’s is the intercession altogether; His is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth, then to Him you shall be brought back.

Quran Surah:7 Verse:53- Do they wait for aught but its final sequel? On the day when its final sequel comes about, those who neglected it before will say: Indeed the apostles of our Lord brought the truth; are there for us then any intercessors so that they should intercede on our behalf? Or could we be sent back so that we should do (deeds) other than those which we did? Indeed they have lost their souls and that which they forged has gone away from them.

Quran Surah:26 Verse:100- So we have no intercessors

Quran Surah:6 Verse:51- And warn with it those who fear that they shall be gathered to their Lord…. there is no guardian for them, nor any intercessor besides Him ……that they may guard (against evil).

Quran Surah:6 Verse:70- And leave those who have taken their religion for a play…..it shall not have besides Allah any guardian nor an intercessor……and a painful chastisement because they disbelieved.

Quran Surah:6 Verse:94- And certainly you have come to Us alone as We created you at first, and you have left behind your backs the things which We gave you, and We do not see with you your intercessors about whom you asserted that they were (Allah’s) associates in respect to you; certainly the ties between you are now cut off and what you asserted is gone from you.

Quran Surah:2 Verse:48- And be on your guard against a day when one soul shall not avail another in the least, neither shall intercession on its behalf be accepted, nor shall any compensation be taken from it, nor shall they be helped.

Quran Surah:2 Verse:254- O you who believe! spend out of what We have given you before the day comes in which there is no bargaining, neither any friendship nor intercession, and the unbelievers — they are the unjust.

Now after they have presented you with these verses you first ask them does Quran contradict itself? Of course they will say no, then you present them with these verses where Allah(swt) says there is no intercession but EXCEPT for some people there is. The first verse is a verse we use every single day but never really grasp to understand a certain part of it. Ayat al-Kursi Quran Surah:2 Verse:255- Allah is He besides Whom there is no god, the Everliving, the Self-subsisting by Whom all subsist……who is he that can intercede with Him but by His permission?…..He is the Most High, the Great.  So Allah(swt) has made it clear in the verse that no one can intercede without his permission, so he left the room open for intercession by saying without his permission. More proof, and more proof for Shaf’a. Allah(swt) in the Quran tells us to use a means of  Wasilla to get to him. Quran Surah:5 Verse:35- O ye who believe! Be mindful of your duty to Allah, and seek the way of approach (Wasilla) onto Him, and strive in His way in order that ye may succeed. For those who question you on the verse and say that’s not what the verse means in Arabic and you have taken the verse out of context, here is the verse in Arabic.“ Yā ‘Ayyuhā Al-Ladhīna ‘Āmanū Attaqū Allāha Wa Abtaghū ‘Ilayhi Al-Wasīlata Wa Jāhidū Fī Sabīlihi La`allakum Tufliĥūna.  Allah(swt) in this verse clearly is instructing mankind to use His representatives as means of access to HIM. Quran Surah:10 Verse:3Surely your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods, and He is firm in power, regulating the affair, there is no intercessor except after His permission; this is Allah, your Lord, therefore serve Him; will you not then mind? Quran Surah:34 Verse:23- And intercession will not avail aught with Him save of him whom He permits Until when fear shall be removed from their hearts, They shall say: What is it that your Lord said? They shall say: The truth. And He is the Most High, the Great.

So why then does Quran say that there is no intercession when Allah(swt) clearly says that there are people who he will permit it for? Because it is referring to the people that disbelieved or took up other Gods besides Allah(swt). Quran Surah:30 Verse:13- And they shall not have any intercessors from among their gods they have joined with God, and they shall be deniers of their associate-gods. Also for the people that took there religion for granted and played games with it as stated in a verse presented by the Sunni sect, Quran Surah:6 Verse:70.  That’s why Imam Jaffar as-Sadiq(as) says "those who neglect there Salah (daily prayers) will not receive our (Ahlul Bayts)(as) Shafa’a". So how can one who does not do his Wajbat ( Islamic duties to Allah(swt)) expect to receive Shafa’a from Ahlul Bayt(as). It does not happen. Quran makes that clear Quran Surah:74 Verse:48- So the intercession of intercessors shall not avail them. The verse is saying not that they will try to do Shafa’a for you and it will be rejected  but, stating the fact that if the interceders that Allah(swt) has accepted were to intercede and and that did nothing for you then by what means do you think anything else will save or have mercy for you on that day.

Now that the case for intercession has been shown we must show who Allah(swt) allows to perform  this act. They must meet these conditions.

Quran Surah:19 Verse:87- They shall not control intercession, save he who has made a covenant with the Beneficent God.

Quran Surah:43 Verse:86- And those whom they call upon besides Him have no authority for intercession, but he who bears witness of the truth and they know the truth.

Quran Surah:21 Verse:28- He knows what is before them and what is behind them, and they do not intercede except for him whom He approves and for fear of Him they tremble.

Quran Surah:20 Verse:109- On that day shall no intercession avail except of him whom the Beneficent God allows and whose word He is pleased with.

To make this last part short If Allah(swt) has made a covenant with the Imams don’t you think logically that they must meet the other conditions. And once again for the people who Question covenant with Imama: even if you have a different interpretation of the word, a covenant was still established with it during Prophet Ibrahim’s(as) time. Allah(swt) Says my COVENANT will not reach the unjust. So only the righteous shall be made a covenant with. And what did Prophet Ibrahim(as) ask to get this answer? "Will there be from my OFFSPRING".  LET ALONE THEY ARE AHLUL BAYT(Quran33:33).

(LOL) Now after all that they might come and say that only Prophet Muhammad can do this. Allahu Akbar how ignorant of the topic they are. Even the angels have the power of intercession with His permission. Quran Surah:53 Verse26- And how many an angel is there in the heavens whose intercession does not avail at all EXCEPT after Allah has given permission to whom He pleases and chooses.    Sahih Muslim Book :4, Number :2071: ‘A’isha reported Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) saying: If a company of Muslims numbering one hundred pray over a dead person, all of them interceding for him, their intercession for him will be accepted. So much for believing that only the Prophet(saw) can intercede. (And for praying over the DEAD).  One more thing you can add to really shatter them is by saying, "didn’t prophet Muhammad(saw) say that a martyr has the power of intercession?"  Sunan Abu Dawud Book: 8 or 14(which ever is labeled Jihad) Hadith: 2516: Narrated AbudDarda': The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: The intercession of a martyr will be accepted for seventy members of his family. ISN’T IMAM HUSSEIN(AS) A MARTYR?????

Now, I will present you with hadith from our Sunni brothers, but (lol) to save time I will list the references and you can look them up. And don’t worry you have my word that these hadith exist in their books and they are backing the case of intercession:

Sahih Al-Bukhari- Volume:1 Book:3 Hadith:98, Volume:1 Book:7 Hadith:331, Volume:1 Book:8 Hadith:429, Volume:1 Book:11 Hadith:588, Volume:2 Book:24 Hadith:553, Volume:4 Book:55 Hadith:556, Volume:6 Book:60 Hadith:3Volume:6 Book:60 Hadith:236, Volume:9 Book:93 Hadith:532B, Volume:9 Book:93Hadith:601

Sahih Muslim- Book:1 Hadith:352,  Book:1 Hadith:357, Book:1 Hadith:367, Book:1 Hadith:369, Book:1 Hadith:388, Book:1 Hadith:392  Book:1 Hadith:396, Book:4 Hadith:747, Book4: Hadith:1787, Book30: Hadith:5655

Maliks Muwatta- Book:15 (The Quran) Hadith:26

Sanan Abu Dawud- Book:35 0r 40 (which ever is Model behavior of the prophet,in arabic its Kitab al-Sunnah) Hadith:4721- Narrated Anas ibn Malik: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: My intercession will be for those of my people who have committed major sins.

Shamaa-il Tirmidhi- Chapter:14 (The Armor) Hadith:1 (103 overall)- The prophets intercession is Wajaib (mandatory) on Tulhah.

 There are more from Fiqh-al Sunnah, (Author of Sahih Muslim) Nawawi’s forty hadith, and their Authentic Supplications of the Prophet Muhammad(saw).

 Insha’Allah that this post was informative, helpful and easy to understand. I am sorry for the length but I wanted to be sure that I got all the necessary things in. Brothers and Sisters I want to say something, do not be discouraged by people that are ignorant of the facts. Even when you present a flawless case there are some who don’t use logic, don’t care for facts and what you have to say; all they want to do is be ignorant and illogical. As for those who have come from our Sunni brothers and sisters who truly want to learn, use logic, have the open mind to understand the truth of fact, and are not afraid of the truth, Insha’Allah this post helped. Salaamu alaykum.

50 Responses to “Is there Intercession in Islam?”

  1. Ali Hodroje Says:

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    May Allah (saw) bless you for taking time and writing these informative articles
    Sallam

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  5. any Says:

    All the Aayaat are related to the time when those prophets were alive and the proof is given if you read all these aayaat one more time, not even single one of them tells you to use wasilla of them now when they are not alive. Please brother i am trying to argue but i think we are better off if stop discussing the issues we disagree but talk about peace and love among us. We have enough people are already trying to divide us.

  6. bfoali Says:

    Sallam Any,
    Firstly the entire Quran was revealed when the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was alive so I don’t get why you use that as an argument against intercession, do you believe that just because the Prophet is dead that he cannot intercede for us on the day of judgement?
    Let us see what some of your scholars say about this, because
    A) I am assuming you are a Sunni Muslim, and Muslim in general because if you are than believing the dead can hear should already be a belief you have so I do not even have to go into that.
    B) I think you will respect your scholars more than me.

    Abu Hamid Muhammad al-Ghazzali’, Ihya’ ‘Ulum al-Din, vol. 1, pp. 258-261.

    ”The Prophet should be made the means (wasilah) and the intercessor (shafi’), and with face turned towards the tomb, the pilgrim should implore Allah for the sake and position of the Prophet with the words: “O Allah, indeed You have said, ‘Had they, who had wronged themselves, come to you and asked Allah’s forgiveness and the Apostle had asked forgiveness for them, they would have certainly found Allah Most-Propitious, Most-Merciful’ (Holy Qur’an 4:64); Allah, surely we have heard Your words and we obey Your command, by coming to Your Prophet to seek his intercession with You for our sins;…”

    (Abu Hamid Muhammad al-Ghazzali’, Ihya’ ‘Ulum al-Din, vol. 1, pp. 258-261).

    Tawassul to the Prophets, saints, pious persons, martyrs and the righteous during supplications, whether in their lifetime or after their death, is permissible in the following manner: Allahumma inni atawassalu ilayka bi-fulan an tujiba da’wati wa taqdia hajati (O Allah! I beseech you by means of so and so a person, accept my supplication and grant my request).

    Shaykh Khalil Ahmad Saharanpuri, ‘Aqa’id Ahl al-Sunnah wa al-Jama’ah fi radd al-Wahhabiyyah wa al-Bid’ah, translated into Persian by ‘Abd al-Rahman Sarbazi, p. 86.

    ( This should also answer your question about ‘’well the Prophet is dead so he cannot do it, and another one where you might say well fine Prophets can do intercession but not Imam Ali (as) and the rest)

    Secondly you said that nowhere does Allah (Sawt) tell us to use means of approaching him (through intercession) well I would like to see your thoughts of this verse Any.
    005:035] O ye who believe! Do your duty to God, seek the means of approach(alwaseelata) unto Him, and strive with might and main in his cause: that ye may prosper
    Sunni Tafsir will give you a good definition of what Wasiliah is :d. So go check them out
    So Allah (sawt) in this verse is telling us to seek means of approach to him. Can it get any clearer?

  7. Asif Says:

    I cant understand how you proved that wasilla is halal. Some of the verses you are giving are irrelevant and some are out of context. Also why do you people say alaihissalam to hussain(rd)he was a suhabi and not a messenger

  8. MoMahdi Says:

    Asif your a idiot and a moron. Come refute the article if the verses are out of context. Please don’t be a dumb child and just be a typical Sunni and run his mouth because he read some verses in the article and didn’t read the whole article and he thinks he understands it. You are a dumb Sunni and you will always be one when you continue to open your mouth without knowing the subject.

    What you dumb Sunnis don’t understand is when you say that these verses are not intended for us but for the people of the time, then your dumb Sunni mouth just admitted that the Quran is not universal. Your stupid comment is Suggesting that the Quran is not the law of man and that things in it are out dated and not meant for use. Lool your so dumb Asif. Then we might as well rewrite the law for our time because Allah(swt) did not write law for our generation. If everything cannot be used from the Quran today, then it is not the word of God. That is what you are implying. You and that dumb sunni Any. Second, Hadith from your Bukhari, Muslim and other Six Sahih books were quoted. So what the hell are you guys talking about. Further more if this not meant for us then why does Allah(swt) say in the Quran to All of Us, use a means of wasilla to get to me. A means of which he has excepted and made available to us. What the hell are you guys talking about. Please challenge me on these verses, I beg you, try it, lets see how dumb I can really make you look.

    Peace be upon those who deserve it.

  9. bfoali Says:

    Hey Asif,

    Well with all due respect,

    What was the point of your comment?

    I mean if the verses were taken out of context then prove it. Is that too much to ask? If the verses were as you say ” irrelevant ” then please prove that as well.
    Please come back and actually prove something, then maybe that can be the beginning point of a discussion with you, but if all you do is come here and say ‘’out of context and irrelevant verses’’ WITHOUT proving that statement, then what do you want me to say?
    Ali.H (Bfoali)

  10. bfoali Says:

    Something I also found very interesting was his statement about how some of the verses were irrelevant, and right after that statement he jumps to a whole new topic and asks why we say (Alayhe Salam) on Imam Hussein (as).

    Now that made me laugh
    Ali.H (Bfoali)

  11. MoMahdi Says:

    Let me also add one more thing, Please challenge me on the article, and please challenge me where in Quran, Allah(swt) tells us that intersession is possible with his permission, tells us that Intersession can be done only by some people that he has excepted and also how He tells us to use that means of intersession to reach him. Even though we already did in the article loool, if you would have read it, I will be more than happy to humiliate you. Thank you

    Peace be upon those who deserve it.

  12. bfoali Says:

    Dont expect him to challenge the article.

  13. Asif Says:

    Salam brothers. Well i am ashamed 2 say that people like you are going to hell. You are out of islamic sphere. Remember this. If u believe on day of judgement , u will pay there. Regarding answering ur foolish article ,i know great answers to them in the light of quran & hadees( which u people dont believe in )but unfortunately i dont know references 2 even 1 of them . Insha allah i’ll soon reply . Till then ,repent for ur unforgivable sins and remember “THE DEAF ,THE DUMB ,THE BLIND ,THEY WILL NEVER COME TO THE PATH “(GLORIOUS QURAN – CHAPTER 2)

  14. MoMahdi Says:

    Asif I’m impressed you know a verse from Quran, and you know what chapter it’s in wow. You made sure you wrote what chapter it’s in so you could seem like you know what your talking about and feel good about yourself lol. Can you tell me what verse I’ll give an extra gold star. Asif I challenge you, please refute the article. You claim to know so much but yet you can’t even quote me anything. You claim to know answers in light of Quran and hadith but yet you don’t even give a single verse or hadith to over turn the article. The funny thing is I posted all the verses you Sunni’s use from the Quran to say there is no intersession lool so I don’t understand what your going to bring from the Quran. I even brought you Hadith from Bukhari, Muslim etc., stating the fact the intersession will be preformed on the day of judgment with Allah(swt) permission and mercy. So I’m confused.

    You tell me to pray for forgiveness for my unforgivable sin. Your so smart, you really bring the mercy of Allah(swt) into light. That’s a way to bring someone to Allah(swt) thanks you idiot. Your like a Christian who’s been brainwashed to believe what the believe because you were raised that way. When you prove a Christian wrong using the bible, he denies the the fact that you have proven him wrong and will even go as far to say “I don’t even need the bible”. You are same way, hadith from YOUR SUNNI BOOKS have been produced, verses from the QURAN HAS BEEN PRODUCED but you sir are the TRUE essence of being referred to as, “DEAF, DUMB, BLIND SO THEY WILL NOT TURN BACK”

    ALLAH(SWT) HAS PUT A SEAL ON YOUR HEART, YOUR HEARING AND YOUR EYES. FOR YOU WILL HAVE AN ULTIMATE PUNISHMENT. Quran 2:7 if you want to look it up. And lool so you don’t have a seizure looking for what verse you quoted earlier, it’s verse 18. Insha’Allah soon will you been in the hell fire with Omar ibnal Khattab, Abu Bakar and Iblis. For that is your destiny.

    I wonder what side you would have taken when Asiha went to war against Imam Ali(as) or when Muawiyah went to war with him. Please answer this Question. Remember Imam Ali(as) was the Khalfia of the time, so chose wisely.

    Peace be upon those who deserve it.

  15. Asif Says:

    I notice that you are a very ill mannered guy . Is this the way you shias reason out disputes. Naturally that is your character . It shows .Regarding the ayat of quran asking people to continue finding ways to reach allah , i dont understand how do u prove that wasilla is permitted. That verse isnt talking about intercession at all. You people just put the word ‘wasilla’ in brackets to prove your part ! Thats ridiculous . Also i want to tell you something that all the hadith in the 6 books arent sahih. Some r hasn and some are za’eef. I know i have not answered all your questions but i dont know the references . I an only a middle school kid. Anyways, please talk in a friendly manner from now on because i want to know many things about your din and you re the only way. But frankly speaking my heart burns when i see the muslims divided ,after all we re from a common ancestor. We must try to settle our disputes peacefully. Also brother tell me from which country do you belong to and whats your age . WASSALAAM-PEACE BE UPON ALL THE MUSLIMEEN.

  16. bfoali Says:

    As-Sallamu-Alaykom Asif,

    Asif, I am sorry if you feel that you are being treated disrespectfully, but I want you to put yourself in our position and then tell us how you would feel.

    Your first appearance on this blog was with all due respect a joke. Here is what you stated ‘. Some of the verses you are giving are irrelevant and some are out of context’

    Now there is nothing wrong with the following statement, except ONE thing, which is that you did NOT prove a single thing you stated. Is that not frustrating? In a court of law, you would be mocked at. I can’t imagine why you would come up with a conclusion with nothing to support it, no facts, no evidence, nothing.

    You return, and you still prove nothing, absolutely nothing. Not only do you prove nothing but the first thing you state is this ‘’ Salam brothers. Well i am ashamed 2 say that people like you are going to hell’

    You give us Salam, then state we are going to hell…do you not see anything wrong with this? You then state ‘’I know great answers to them in the light of quran & hadees( which u people dont believe in )but unfortunately i dont know references 2 even 1 of them’’

    Well why would you come to the blog, state that we are going to hell, call the article foolish, state that you have great answers, and in the end you tell us to wait for your answers? I mean what is the point of this act of yours?

    In your final return here is what you state ‘’ You people just put the word ‘wasilla’ in brackets to prove your part ! Thats ridiculous’’

    Maybe you are not listening to the verse in Arabic, but the word used is indeed ‘Wasilla’ now if your interpretation of the verse is different from us than no problem, but to state that we just put the word in there, and we just add it for the hell of it is a blatant lie. Why is it a lie? Well listen to the verse in Arabic and read it in Arabic and you will see that the word you claim we add is in fact being used by Allah (sawt).

    As you can see my dear brother Asif, dialoguing is extremely important, but it takes two to dialogue, and in this case you are not providing any proof for any of your statements.

    You are a very young kid so Insha Allah you continue learning and you continue to seek for the truth. I was born a Shia Muslim, but in my latter years as a teenager I left the Jaffari school of thought, and adopted the views of the Shafi madhab, and accepted Bukhari and Muslim as the true portrayal of the deeds and actions of the Prophet, after much studying and learning, I was, without a doubt convinced that the path which tells you to follow the prophet and his progeny is indeed the path I want to be on. You are still very young, so keep on learning and God willing you will be shown the truth.

  17. MoMahdi Says:

    The hadith that were posted come from books called SAHIH BUKAHRI, SAHIH MUSLIM, ETC BUT yet they are NOT SAHIH. You claim some are weak and some are strong? Do know what the word Sahih means? You understand thay according to Ahlul Sunna that these books are only second to Quran??? So what are you trying to say. You call a book Sahih and yet you claim that not all the hadith are true. WHAT, WOOOOOOOOOOW. Lool OMG this to much. Habibi you win, I give up I’m going to hell your going to heaven and that it.

    If only would have read the article with true intention of wanting to learn you would have seen truth. We put wasilla in brackets and make it the way we want? That proved to me sir that you really did not read the article as if you we had to know it to pass a test. I give that analogy because when you study for a test you make sure you know what your reading. You go over it left and right so you 100% understand it. If you would have read the article you would have came across a certain part where wasilla was shown in arabic. I’m going to paste a portion:

    . More proof, and more proof for Shaf’a. Allah(swt) in the Quran tells us to use a means of Wasilla to get to him. Quran Surah:5 Verse:35- O ye who believe! Be mindful of your duty to Allah, and seek the way of approach (Wasilla) onto Him, and strive in His way in order that ye may succeed. For those who question you on the verse and say that’s not what the verse means in Arabic and you have taken the verse out of context, here is the verse in Arabic.“ Yā ‘Ayyuhā Al-Ladhīna ‘Āmanū Attaqū Allāha Wa Abtaghū ‘Ilayhi Al-Wasīlata Wa Jāhidū Fī Sabīlihi La`allakum Tufliĥūna. Allah(swt) in this verse clearly is instructing mankind to use His representatives as means of access to HIM

    When you read the other verses the word is Shafi’a I posted this in the article. Please reread the article and if you have any Questions, I will give you my number and you can call me and I can give you direct answers. Please do not be ignorant close minded. Allah(swt) gave us a brain to us and we as Humans have to know the truth. We can not be Muslims just because we were born Muslim we have to learn for ourselves.

    Peace be upon those who deserve it.

  18. Arbaz Says:

    I want to tell MoMahdi that indeed the quranic verse is talking about intercession but we must remember that some types of intercession is allowed . Like through our good deeds. Also tell of can we talk about a different topic on this page. Wassalam

  19. bfoali Says:

    As-Sallamu-Alaykom Arbaz,

    Rather than telling us, would you mind showing us some examples?

    Thank you

  20. Arbaz Says:

    I’ve already given an example by saying intercession by our deeds. Also intercession of allahs qualities is allowed . It is not only allowed but even recommended (mustahab). The final prophet (saw) said that such a dua is never rejected in which qualities of Allah are intercessed with.

  21. bfoali Says:

    As-Sallamu-Alaykom Arbazz,
    Thank you for your quick reply, but once again you have not shown us any examples. I want a verse from the Quran which supports your statement. For example brother MoMahdi says that intercession is an Islamic belief, and he then provided chapter 2:255, 10:3 etc, to prove his statement.

    You say ’’ intercession by our deeds ‘’ but you have failed to provide to us ANY verses from the Holy Quran to support your claim, which is a problem.
    One quick point, in order for you to disprove the article you have to prove that intercession is not an Islamic belief, if you are unable to do that, then the article still stands and intercession is and will always be an Islamic belief.

    For the sake of it, let us examine the verses and apply your comments on intercession being by our deeds or being of Allah (sawt) quality (which I have no idea what you mean) and see if they fit. Let us go verse by verse

    2:255- Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth?
    Are you telling me that this verse is referring to our good deeds? Or this is referring to Allah (Sawt) qualities? Linguistically it does not make sense your interpretation to be true, and common sense would state that your interpretation is completely false and ludicrous

    10:3 – No intercessor (can plead with Him) except after His leave (hath been obtained)

    This one just really shoots down your interpretation, and if you are wondering about the brackets this is from the Yusuf Ali translation not from me. Once again though do you believe that this verse is referring to our good deeds? It does not make sense at all.

    I mean I can go on and on, I can quote to you one verse from the Quran where it says that angels will perform intercession and this will really destroy your argument, I can quote to you from Sahih Bukhari and show you that intercession is performed not by good deeds but by people that Allah (Sawt) has chosen.
    I
    n case you feel as if I have misrepresented your argument, well all blame falls on you, for not even providing us one example, or set of proof, so I have to assume this and that.

  22. Nayim Says:

    This is the most idiotic nonsensical rubbish i have ever heard.

    Shia’s who pray through imams, make pictures of the prophet and his family, maatum, some who think Imam Ali was the rightful messenger, some have made Imam Ali a god.

    You lot are muslim??? Really???

    You are all bloody mad and deserve the highest punishments in this life and in the next.

    You are sick and perverted and sinful.

    How about temp marriage??? What is that in aid for?? To get your leg over and whore your women????

    Answer the above please, this ive got to read.

  23. MoMahdi Says:

    To waste my time with you would be haram!!

    Quran 6:68- And when you see those who enter into false discourses about Our communications, withdraw from them until they enter into some other discourse, and if the Shaitan causes you to forget, then do not sit after recollection with the unjust people.

    Your a dumb Wahabi-Salafi-Sunni. Your a idiot and a moron. Astagfar’Allah on the stupid, dumb allegations you have made. We are not the ones who believe we will see Allah(swt) when we die. Astagfar’Allah.

    Go be a mushrik and see Allah(swt) with your eyes. You will recognize him by his Shin.

    You Stupid Sunni, don’t ever mistake us For Alawyia who Take Imam Ali(as) for God or that astagfar’Allah Jabrea’il mada a mistake.

    We are not sick and perverted, But Omar was!! He loved his men!

    Soon enough insha’Allah you will receive the highest punishment with your Gods Abu Bakr, Omar, Uthman, Mawyia and Yazeed. Anything to make your Gods look good, huh stupid Sunni.

    But one more thing we don’t whore our women around the way Abu bakr thought Aysiea was a whore and sleeping around. Or when Omar buried one of his Daughters Alive in the sand.

    Quran 81:8-9 And when the female infant buried alive is asked for what sin she was killed.

    Now you challenge me on these so I can embarrass your stupid Sunni a** and I will produce your Stupid Bukhari and Muslim and So forth. To hell insha’Allah you will be. You are the type of person that is, retched and scum. If the Prophet(saw) himself came down and told you were wrong you would not accept. You love to have to manipulate and have a upper hand over people, threw money and power just like your hypocrite Gods (Abu Bakr, Omar and so forth). Thats why the stole the Kalifa to begin with.

    Your future comments will not be accepted because of your filthy mouth and disrespect. Perhaps if you approach with Aklia(manners) we can have a conversation. But I don’t think you can because your a Wahabi scum. I guess that’s how your parents raised you. May Alla(swt) forgive me for my comments and anger but you are the dirt I step on. And I didn’t want to take it to a different level but your stupid Wahabi-Salafi-Sunni a** is such a Kafir that that’s the only way you understand. And if your parents raised that way and act stupid like you then insha’Allah you will be in the Hell fire with them soon. Perhaps your mother will comfort you soon enough.

    Peace be upon those who deserve it.

  24. bfoali Says:

    Nayim,
    You Said: This is the most idiotic nonsensical rubbish i have ever heard.

    My Reply: since you posted this on the article about intercession I am assuming that comment was directed to the article. Nayim if you believe that this is the most idiotic thing you have ever seen than PLEASE refute it. Calling the article rubbish will do NOTHING but make you seem immature. Why don’t you disprove the notion that intercession is an Islamic belief? Do it, I dare you to do it. I actually challenge you to do it.

    In case you say…well I believe in intercession but not through the pictures of imams, well than you have to prove that this article even said such a thing.

    You Said: Shia’s who pray through imams, make pictures of the prophet and his family, maatum, some who think Imam Ali was the rightful messenger, some have made Imam Ali a god.

    My Reply: I have never EVER seen a photo of the Prophet, NEVER in my life, so to claim that we do this is something new to me, and EVEN, let us just say EVEN if such a thing does exist what does that prove? Does that prove that intercession is NOT an Islamic belief? No it does not, so again your banter accomplishes nothing. Whoever thinks Imam Ali (as) was the true messenger of God is a fool, and I challenge you to prove this is the case. I really do. Ask ANY of the living Shia scholars this question, and see the response you get, ask ANY of the Shia’s in Iran to publicly say this aloud and see what happens to them. Ask ANY Shia to recite the declaration of faith, and I promise you that you will not hear anyone declare that Ali is the final messenger. Heck prove it from a book of hadiths (make sure it is Sahih, don’t forget Shia’s only believe the Quran is perfect not any other book), or a book of a respected scholar…I challenge you.

    You Said: You are all bloody mad and deserve the highest punishments in this life and in the next.
    You are sick and perverted and sinful.

    My Reply: Okay, and once again does this disprove intercession? Nope.

    You Said: How about temp marriage??? What is that in aid for?? To get your leg over and whore your women????
    Answer the above please, this ive got to read.

    My Reply: Once again, what does Mutah…which you have very comically titled Temp Marriage, have to do with intercession? Let me see…oh it has NOTHING to do with intercession. So need I even respond?
    We have actually already dealt with this issue please click here — Is Mut’aa Forbidden?
    Though to be honest when it comes to Mut’aa I am not really an expert, but maybe this can help you out

    Sahih Muslim: Book 008, Number 3248:
    Ibn Uraij reported: ‘Ati’ reported that jibir b. Abdullah came to perform ‘Umra, and we came to his abode, and the people asked him about different things, and then they made a mention of temporary marriage, whereupon he said: Yes, we had been benefiting ourselves by this temporary marriage during the lifetime of the Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him) and during the time of Abi Bakr and ‘Umar.

    So I guess we do it to benefit ourselves? Umm again I am not an expert on this topic, but I know for sure that not a single Sunni denies that Mut’aa was once halal, but they deny that it was not prohibited, but since they believe it was once halal (though now cancelled), than they must believe that it was once allowed for a certain group of people, (I.e. the companions) so maybe you can ask the companions or read their history books to see why it was made halal for them and why they did it.

  25. bfoali Says:

    For some reason the link did not work, but feel free to click here for the link

    http://www.shiacrescent.com/2008/09/20/is-mutaa-temporary-marriage-forbidden/

  26. Wasi Says:

    Salamualakum brothers,

    I really loved reading this article because it clairfied the meaning and purpose of intercession and gave me more knowledge as to why we do dua to Imam Mahdi (a.s.).

    Clearly our sunni brothers are very misguided. There eyes and hearts are shut.And although they may not know it, their soul is in great discomfort because of their endless doubts. The doubt that is saying to them: “what if i am wrong and Shia is the right path”.

    Sorry I don’t have a verse to prove the above statements but I think we all know that the Quran has many on this relevant topic.

  27. Asif Says:

    Salaam bros, its been quite a while. Well i’ve properly analyzed the verses you used in your part. Let of start by telling you that i do believe in shafa’at and because of you alhamdulillah ,i ve read a lot about it. I do believe that prophet mohammed (s)will intercede on the day of judgement certainly and also some god fearing people BUT ONLY IF ALLAH PERMITS THEM.Also martyrs will intercede to 70 people (indeed hazrat hussain-ra-is also a martyr).Now all the verses of quran you mentioned support only and only shafa’at(read the verses in arabic) except 5:35. We must understand this verse properly as it nowhere mentions that wasilla (in this world) of humans is permitted . It means we should reach god through some means(wasilla).This wasilla, my friends, only means through prayers and righteous deeds as directed by our glorious final prophet (saw). It doesnt mention humans at all. All the hadith in this case talk about shafa’at as well. Hope i become a wasilla to guide you to the right path of islam out of the utter darkness and shirkiya life of yours. Please turn back because shirk has no pardons . I pray to god to show you the light…..(salaam)

  28. MoMahdi Says:

    Unfortunately for you, still you did not produce any proof on what you said. All you did was state which you believe to be true and even then you are wrong.

    Straight from the Scholars mouth, not mine. Why don’t you do real reach before you make a comment next time. Please do go and read the tafser the scholar gives which can be produced in your Sunni Books. http://www.al-quran.org.uk/

    Click on the cometary to read tafseer. You might not be able to read pages 1-7 because i don’r know if the whole book is present. If not please do your salvation a favor and go buy it and read it. Please, your soul will thank you.

    You say we do shirk, brother, if I can call you brother you are the one astagfar’Allah that believes you will see Allah(swt) with you eyes not me. You will recognize by his Shin. Astagfar’Allah Now that Shirk.

    Wasilah is a means of access to a thing or a BEING.

    If Allah had willed He could have guided mankind directly through inspiration, but in His infinite wisdom, He had not deemed it desirable. He selected and appointed His representatives to convey His message and laws to people and administer their affairs in every age. Please refer to commentary of al Baqarah: 2 to 5, 30 to 38, 48, and 124 to know that the Holy Prophet and his Ahl ul Bayt are the only means of approach to Allah.

    Thus wasilah or means of access to Allah is to faithfully follow the Holy Prophet and the holy Imams of his holy house, who have been thoroughly purified by Allah (Ahzab: 33).

    The Holy Prophet said:

    “I and Ali are from one divine light.”

    “I will soon be called back, so I will have to go away from you, but I leave behind, amid you, the thaqalayn (two weighty indispensable influential authorities), the book of Allah and my Ahl ul Bayt. Should you be attached to these two, never, never shall you go astray, after me, for verily these two will never be separated from each other; and, joined together, they shall meet me at the spring of Kawthar.”

    “My Ahl ul Bayt amongst you are like the ark of Nuh. He who sails on it will be safe; but he who holds back shall be drowned and lost.”.

  29. qazi arbaz Says:

    i think what u r telling is completely out of contex and also why do u beat yourself in the month of moharrah may allah give u guidance

  30. arbaz Says:

    well u do not belive in bukhari so u will surely not enter hevean because bukhari is a collection of mohamad(p.b.u.h)saying. And u read BUKHARI 93:477 u will get your answer about the topic UNSEEN

  31. MoMahdi Says:

    How sad of a reply!! Your statement is that of the usual unlearned Sunni. Because Bukhari new the the Prophet Muhammad(saw)??? Because the Prophet said that Bukhari will have all my sayngs right??? Listen to this sad and follish comment. I’m taking it out of context? But yet you have done nothing to prove this but except replay with a hadith from Bukhari to try to bring sense to your foolish claim.

    Here is the hadith from Bukhari:Volume 009, Book 093, Hadith Number 477: Narated By Masruq : ‘Aisha said, “If anyone tells you that Muhammad has seen his Lord, he is a liar, for Allah says: ‘No vision can grasp Him.’ (6.103) And if anyone tells you that Muhammad has seen the Unseen, he is a liar, for Allah says: “None has the knowledge of the Unseen but Allah.”

    So how the heck does this prove the article wrong. This is true if you would have read in the two lower articles you would have seen beautiful and clear and unchallenged statements written about The unseen.

    http://www.shiacrescent.com/2008/09/21/rebuttal-to-tits/
    This article took on many different topics as well as the topic of the unseen

    or even better

    http://www.shiacrescent.com/2009/09/04/knowledge-of-the unseen-ilmu-%E2%80%98l-ghayb/
    This article written by brother Ali, takes on the topic of the unseen beautifully.

    I will copy and paste becasue I know your Sunni type you won’t bother to learn the truth.

    Your next weak charge is in regards to the Imam’s having knowledge of the unseen, future and past, and that they knew how they were going to die. As if that is something that they know on their own, not that Allah(swt) has revealed to them, correct? As if Allah(swt) didn’t know and allow you to write your original flier as He has allowed us to refute it with ease, right now. I know that it’s hard to understand with your feeble, machine-link minds– but try to keep up. They only know about the unseen from revelation by Allah(swt). You try to use a Quranic verse that claims only Allah(swt) knows that “Hour.”( Quran 31:34). Let me inform you about that verse, because it’s clear that you must carry your Quran more than read it. That verse is talking about the Day of Judgment, NOT our passing into the Hereafter. Wow what enlightened thinkers you all are! Yes, the Imam’s were made aware of their deaths: they knew how, where, and when they would face death; BUT the moment of death (referring to precise second) when their souls would completely transcend the body, NO!!! That is the separation Allah(swt) kept for Himself– to show His Authority. There are many verses in the Quran you could have used that say only Allah (swt) has the knowledge of the unseen. He tells us this over and over, because truly no one does UNLESS He reveals it to them. Allah(swt) guides the Prophets and Imam’s in all things; that is how they know what they know. It is not something new for Allah(swt) to lead them and give them knowledge of the unseen. How did the Prophet Muhammad(sawas) know about what had happened before him??? It was revealed.

    Quran: Surah:3 Verse:44- This is part of the tidings of the things unseen, which We reveal unto thee (O Apostle!) by inspiration: Thou wast not with them when they cast lots with arrows, as to which of them should be charged with the care of Mary: Nor wast thou with them when they disputed (the point).

    The next verse clearly states that the knowledge of the unseen was given to the Prophet Muhammad(sawaw). Why? Because he is Allah’s(swt) proof!!

    Quran: Surah:3 Verse: 179- God will not leave the believers in the state in which ye are now, until He separates what is evil from what is good nor will He disclose to you the secrets of the Unseen. But He chooses of His Apostles (For the purpose) whom He pleases. So believe in God. And His apostles: And if ye believe and do right, ye have a reward without measure.

    Allah(swt) says that no one knows about the unseen realm EXCEPT to who he reveals it to.

    Quran: Surah:72 Verse:26- None knows God’s unseen realm except those whom He chooses from among His messengers.

    So they know the unseen because it is revealed to them. And if your polluted brain can’t accept that Allah(swt) would reveal to them because they’re not Prophets then I suggest you read the Quran when Allah(swt) revealed to the bee the process in which to make Honey. Quran: 16:68 The word is “Wahi”(revelation of inspiration) this is the same way revelation would come to the Prophets. In fact this word is used again, Quran: 99:5 when Allah(swt) gave “awha” to the world; or when Allah(swt) said “awhaytu” to the disciples of Isa(as) to believe in Him. Quran: 5:111. How about when Allah(swt) said “awhayna” about the mother of Musa(as) to suckle him and cast him into the river. Quran: 28:7. Just because you receive wahi from Allah(swt) does not make you a Prophet, but in fact is applicable to any knowledge or action which is not obtained by observation or experience.

    Quranic Quotes taken from brother Ali’s article:

    003:049]And I declare to you what ye eat, and what ye store in your houses. Surely therein is a Sign for you if ye did believe; (Prophet Isa)

    [061:006 And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: “O Children of Israel! I am the apostle of God (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of an Apostle to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad.” But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, “This is evident sorcery!” (Prophet Isa)

    [012:096] Then when the bearer of the good news came, He cast (the shirt) over his face, and he forthwith regained clear sight. He said: “Did I not say to you, ‘I know from God that which ye know not?’” (Prophet Yusuf)

    [027:016] And Solomon was David’s heir. He said: “O ye people! We have been taught the speech of birds and on us has been bestowed (a little) of all things: this is indeed Grace Manifest (from God.)” (Prophet Suluyman)

    [002:251] By God’s will they routed them; and David slew Goliath; and God gave him power and wisdom and taught him whatever (else) He willed. (Prophet Dawud)

    [012:006]“Thus will thy Lord choose thee and teach thee the interpretation of stories (and events) and perfect His favour to thee and to the posterity of Jacob – even as He perfected it to thy fathers Abraham and Isaac aforetime! For God is full of know ledge and wisdom.” (Prophet Yusuf)

    [012:037] He said: The food which ye are given (daily) shall not come unto you but I shall tell you the interpretation ere it cometh unto you. This is of that which my Lord hath taught me. Lo! I have forsaken the religion of folk who believe not in Allah and are disbelievers in the Hereafter. (Prophet Yusuf)

  32. qazi arbaz Says:

    listen you did not gave reply to my question why do u beat yourself uf during mohhram

  33. qazi arbaz Says:

    i belive that god gave some knowledge to prophet but prophet himself had no knowledge of unseen as mentioned in the quran 6:59

  34. john Says:

    listen how kind of muslims r u there is fighting going on between you mislims and u tell us to accept islam . how can u prove islam is the best religion by this fighting

  35. bfoali Says:

    Sallam Arbaz,
    Do you believe Allah ( Subanu wa’ tala) EVER granted the Prophet knowledge of the unseen? Your statement says that you believe that God gave some knowledge to the Prophet, but do you believe some of that knowledge also included some aspects of the unseen?

    Hey John,
    Well if you do not accept Islam or any other religion because you believe the followers are constantly fighting than you allow your emotions to outweigh your judgement which is quite sad. I hope you NEVER look at the followers of ANY religion but rather look at the religion itself and make your judgement from that.

  36. arbaz Says:

    yes that includes some aspects of unseen as well .. but not all of the unseen as allah says in the quran as well “that we give some knowledge of unseen to the messangers “

  37. john Says:

    what religion … i can prove that there is scientific error in the quran
    because quran says ” that allah has only the knowledge what is in the wombs of the women we know by new researchs that we can find wether the womb of the mother has a girl or a boy and now even we can make the child intelligent by adding some genes …..so isnt this quran wrong

  38. MoMahdi Says:

    First off go read the article about the mourning of Imam Hussein(as) on why Lutuim is permitted.

    http://www.shiacrescent.com/2008/08/08/justification-of-latmia-in-mourning-of-imam-husseinas/

    Second who the heck are you to dictate what knowledge of the unseen is and was given. You think that put someone on Allah(swt) level astagfar’Allah??? Allah(swt) knowledge is infinite, therefore it wouldn’t matter what of the unseen because it is a mere spec, if that, of Allah(swt) knowledge.

  39. MoMahdi Says:

    Hey John how are you, ok do me a favor, please give me the Chapter and Verse number and lets tackle the verse you are referring too. Second remember what Quran says Allah(swt) inspires all, therefore wahi(inspiration) rather through revelation of verses, angels, or inspiration of action through thought, it is all from God. So inspiration to have scientific knowledge of a unseen object is but a wahi given by the Lord. For he inspired the earth, bees and so forth.

    Also please state what you are, Atheist, Christian, gnostic, and so forth. You can come to this site and leave comments about the Quran having contradictions and be confident about it, but not state what your believe is. Why? and yes it is important so that I may show you your true flawless in what you believe.

    It’s even funnier that the email that you used for your account is the same as arbaz. ( qazibrother@gmail.com ). Why is that the case, are you the same person playing games on this site??

    Please be a man-women and step up and admit what you are and please stop playing these childish games and posing as other people.

  40. bfoali Says:

    I really am stunned. Arbaz and John are really the same people. Something beautiful about this blog post is you can see the date and time a comment was posted. Let us have a look:

    On January 12th at 7:11 am Arbaz posted a comment on the blog, FOUR minutes later John posts a comment. Coincidence?

    On January the 14th at 7:11 am Arbaz posted a comment, FIVE minutes later on 7:16 am John posted a comment…

    To be honest that wouldn’t be proof enough to make the claim that Arbaz and John are in fact that same people.
    The biggest proof comes from Brother Mahdi who states that Arbaz and John clearly use the same email address for the blog… now how can that be explained?
    Arbaz if this is true, insha Allah you can come on and explain to us why.
    I think I may know why you did such a thing. Your either doubting your religion and some questions which were posed to you were hard to answer and made you doubt your religion hence making you go under a double name and ask the same questions in order to see what the answer is or how it can be answered. So John is your undercover nick name in where you ask questions which make you doubt Islam and you don’t have to be afraid or embarrassed.

    Or you’re an Atheist trying to waste time…
    Please explain to us.

  41. arbaz Says:

    i think u should close ur website as this shows rubbish

  42. bfoali Says:

    I think you need to grow the courage to be who you really are, as opposed to hiding behind various screen names.

  43. Asif Says:

    You people dont understand I do believe in the 2nd part of your talk on Shafa’at. But the problem is with the impermissible intercession in this world which I consider to be Shirk.
    Anyways,Can you people prove from Quran that intercession of humans in this world is allowed?
    I guess not.
    If Allah has kept hidayah in your destiny then you will surely turn
    back,Insha-allah-ur-rahman……
    These are some verses related accurately to the topic:

    Surah Zumar 39:3
    “Is it not to Allah that sincere devotion is due? But those who take for protectors other than Allah (say): “We only serve them in order that they may bring us nearer to Allah.” Truly Allah will judge between them in that wherein they differ. But Allah guides not such as are false and ungrateful.”

    Surah younus 10:17
    “They serve besides Allah things that hurt them not nor profit them and they say: “These are our intercessors with Allah.” Say: “Do ye indeed inform Allah of something He knows not in the heavens or on earth? Glory to Him! and far is He
    above the partners they ascribe (to Him)!”

  44. MoMahdi Says:

    Wow are you really that blind that you skipped the whole first part of the article. It’s YOU PEOPLE that read and don’t know what you read. The Quran is universal it is for the beginning middle end. If you say it’s not then you should become a Christian and say that the laws of Islam are obsolete and should be changed for modern times. So, if the Quran is universal and everything in it is to be used forever and everything in it is a lesson and way of live for eternity then please stop your ignorance and read what Quran says. All the verses below are when the prophets are on earth. And if you tell me their dead then once again you don’t know Islam and the Quran. Quran says:

    Quran: Surah:2:Verse:154- And do not speak of those who are slain in Allah’s way as dead; nay, (they are) alive, but you do not perceive.

    That means they are always a means of mercy. They are martyrs and the best of martyrs. All of Allah’s appointed servants die as martyrs.

    And I know your Sunni jahal ways, you will try to be clever and say, “So are all martyrs Wasilla’s for us”. And after you make that dumb comment you will feel empowered and feel as if you proved your point.
    (Even though according to your sunni hadith they can preform Shaafa on the day of judgement).

    WRONG… Because Quran makes it clear that only those who are chosen, appointed servants are of Allah swt can be Wasilla. As stated in the verses below. Not only that but those who have lived the live of the pure as Quran says-

    Surah:2 Verse:155-157- And We will most certainly try you with somewhat of fear and hunger and loss of property and lives and fruits; and give good news to the patient, Who, when a misfortune befalls them, say: Surely we are Allah’s and to Him we shall surely return. Those are they on whom are blessings and mercy from their Lord, and those are the followers of the right course.

    Now Wasilla can be explained very fast and easy. When Allah(swt) communicates with mankind how does he do it? Of course he chooses messengers that relay his message. So, through the prophets, Allah(swt) makes aware his existence and rules to mankind. So if Allah(swt) uses a Wasilla to communicate with you, why would it not be possible to use the Wasilla to get to Allah(swt). We don’t worship the Wasilla!! Allah(swt) has accepted this person as a means of mercy to mankind, so why NOT? And in fact, when we read in the Quran, we see just that:

    Quran Surah:2 Verse:61- And when you said: O Musa! we cannot bear with one food, therefore pray Lord on our behalf to bring forth for us out of what the earth grows, of its herbs and its cucumbers and its garlic and its lentils and its onions…………… this was so because they disobeyed and exceeded the limits.

    Quran Surah:7 Verse:134-135- And when the plague fell upon them, they said: O Musa! pray for us to your Lord as He has made a covenant with you, if you remove the plague from us, we will certainly believe in you and we will certainly send away with you the children of Israel. But when We removed the plague from them till a term which they should attain lo! they broke (the promise).

    Quran Surah:3 Verse:159- Thus it is due to mercy from Allah that you deal with them gently, and had you been rough, hard hearted, they would certainly have dispersed from around you; pardon them therefore and ask pardon for them, and take counsel with them in the affair; so when you have decided, then place your trust in Allah; surely Allah loves those who trust.

    Quran Surah:4 Verse:64- And We did not send any apostle but that he should be obeyed by Allah’s permission; and had they, when they were unjust to themselves, come to you and asked forgiveness of Allah and the Apostle had (also) asked forgiveness for them, they would have found Allah Oft-returning (to mercy), Merciful.

    Quran Surah:63 Verse:5- And when it is said to them: Come, the Apostle of Allah will ask forgiveness for you, they turn back their heads and you may see them turning away while they are big with pride.

    So from these five verses we see that Allah(swt) has allowed people to go through his chosen people to reach him as He has done to reach us. Not only that, but he has even on some occasions prescribed the people to do so. So when we do dua for Imam al-Mahdi(as) to come and to be a Wasilla between us and Allah there is nothing wrong with it, for Allah(swt) has allowed us to. But now our Sunni brothers and sisters will say, “fine yes this type of intercession is permitted– but for the dunya(world) and with someone who Allah(swt) has made a covenant with,” but Imam al-Mahdi is not a prophet so how did Allah(swt) establish a covenant with him? How quickly we forget when Allah(swt) in the Quran established a covenant of Imama with Prophet Ibrahim(as). Quran Suarh:2 Verse:124- And when his Lord tried Ibrahim with certain words, he fulfilled them. He said: Surely I will make you an Imam for mankind. Ibrahim said: And of my offspring? My covenant does not include the unjust, said He.

  45. ahmed Says:

    as salam why do u fight with ech other after all we all r muslims lets stop this and u please name ur website as muslim website and not as shia website as it creates sects

  46. ahmed Says:

    i accept that wasila is allowed but only on the last day cant u read zumur v:3
    prophet will save us but only on the last day we should ask for his wasila only on the last day as”ya allah grant us the wasila of propheton the last day as yhis is what we sunnis ask after the adan

  47. Tufail Says:

    Assalamu alaikum..dear brothers..
    its really sad to see all of you calling yourself SHIA or SUNNI. I really don’t understand what kind of people you are??. We are all MUSLIMS and should not call ourselves SHIA OR SUNNI !!!! We are the followers of the Prophet(PBuH) and are called as “UMMAH”…Morover Allah says in Holy Quran that we should hold fast to the rope of Allah and should not become divide into mere sects..
    Before talking about topics like INTERCESSION we should focus on unity of muslims.
    Had we remained united we would not have been suffering the way we are suffering today!!!!..
    So dear brothers call yourselves MUSLIMS and focus on unity rather than menial topics like Intercession!!!!…

  48. Tufail Says:

    Assalamu alaikum brothers..
    it is really sad to see all of you calling yourselves SHIA/SUNNI.!!!..The fact is that we are all MUSLIMS and are very closer to each other as stated in the Quran.
    Callig yourselves with these names is a big shame on all of you!!!!….first be united as a real UMMAH an d then discuss about topics like “Intercession”!!!..

  49. elvin Says:

    dear brothers in islam.i’m 43 years old and have grown up in comunisam – in bosnia.i’m trying to find the way to believe properly…all this arguing is not helping.i notice some of you,my brothers,are very knowledgeable when it comes to the Holly Qur’an but correct me if i’m wrong or am i sensing some conceit and out of that you speak down to others because you believe that your explanation is right and the other brother is wrong and he ( wrong brother )also believes he is right.i ask Allah that he shows us, as muslims ,that we are all ONE UMMAH and these things are left up to Him to decide.i agree that we have to try to learn as much as possible but during that process we should not put each other down. and speak softly to one another like brothers that we are.when we threaten to one another with hell fire we are judging each other to extreme and i think that is for God to do.my point is,i don’t know much at all about islam,but i ask Allah to show me the right way.for me, you are all my brothers and hopefully you will start thinking the same and drop this argument that leads nowhere.we can all try our best and that i hope is enough.none of us perfect despite how much we know,we will always make mistakes and answer for those…while we are arguing about these points our enemy is enjoying him self and taking the control over our lives,killing our peoples and taking uor lands..please brothers open your eyes and talk to eachother kindly and take notice what is happening to us in the world.i ask Allah for forgivness if i had said anything that hurt anybody or their feelings .in mean time i will study the Holy Qur’an and life of our prophet(pbuh) and pray the best i can that i will be on the right path.for the end – can any of my brothers(sunni or shia) tell me if there is a book i could read that both of you can agree on as a common ground and starting point ( besides Holy Qur’an ) for both “groups”.please help me understand my religion and my brothers.how is it possible that we drifted so far a part…please know that i don’t speak,read or write arabic.may ALLAH HAVE MERCY ON ALL OF US and opens our harts and minds and forgives us our sins and makes us one again.sallam

  50. A. Aziz Says:

    Salamu aleikum

    I agree on that statement concerning use of bad language!

    To: Elvin, read Nahjoul Balagha.

    There was a statement about temporary marrige, I might clarify it to you with the help of some Ayatollahs or Mustaheeds as some prefer calling them.
    http://www.al-islam.org/al-serat/muta/
    And more material on this subject, for fun sake: http://www.al-islam.org/rightsofwomeninislam/

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